Did Saudi Arabia “Kill a Journalist” or did they execute a Spy? via /r/WikiLeaks


Did Saudi Arabia “Kill a Journalist” or did they execute a Spy?

I'm increasingly convinced this is the case.

"Khashoggi case causes media exodus from major Saudi investment conference as CNN, CNBC, FT quit".

When did CNN or CNBC EVER care about some sort of "protecting journalists"?

CNN literally told people it's "illegal" to read wikileaks emails without listening to them rant about the "context".

Many people such as myself have sympathy for targetted parties even if we don't agree with them. I would for fringe journalists whether liberal or whatever. Washingtonpost however is very closely aligned with CIA/deep-state groups.

Everyone forgets about this now, but early in Trumps presidency one of the Washingtonpost employees got caught with intent to "impersonate an ICE agent" as the suspect somehow had a huge supply of ICE gear:

A Maryland man arrested last month on charges of impersonating an ICE agent was an employee of The Washington Post, reports ABC 7 in Washington, D.C.

A Feb. 22 raid on the home of 35-year-old Itai Ozderman, an immigrant from Israel, yielded 10 weapons, including handguns, assault-style rifles and a shotgun, ABC 7 reported. Officers also recovered body armor, weapon magazines, bullets, a police radio and a Baltimore County police badge.

Ozderman is accused of attempting to enforce laws in Virginia on more than one occasion.

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that if this guy was not caught by police, he would have used his ICE gear to attack and brutalize, possibly even kill people in order to spark a huge anti-ICE backlash.

The same thing happens historically all the time.

There were false flag "Nazi terrorists" threatening to bomb Jewish community centers in the US until the suspect was caught:

The primary suspect in a string of bomb threats targeting Jewish community centers in the U.S. — a 19-year-old Israeli-American Jewish man — was arrested in southern Israel Thursday, police announced.

The suspect used advanced disguise technologies when contacting other countries, such as distorting voice recognition software, police said, adding that a motive was unclear.

…"He didn't use regular phone lines. He used different computer systems so he couldn't be backtracked," police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.

The Lavon affair, one of the FEW publicly acknowledged examples, had such people impersonating Egyptian nationalists to undermine Western sympathy for Egyptian/Arab nationalists. Innocent Americans/British would have been murdered, and they didn't give a f–k because it was irrelevant to their political agenda:

In the early 1950s, the United States initiated a more activist policy of support for Egyptian nationalism; this aim was often in contrast with Britain's policy of maintaining its regional hegemony. Israel feared that the US policy, which encouraged Britain to withdraw its military forces from the Suez Canal, would embolden the military ambitions towards Israel of Gamal Abdel Nasser, the President of Egypt. Israel at first sought to influence this policy through diplomatic means, but was frustrated.[4]

In the summer of 1954, Colonel Binyamin Gibli, the chief of Israel's military intelligence directorate Aman, initiated 'Operation Susannah' in order to reverse that decision. The goal of the Operation was to carry out bombings and other acts of sabotage in Egypt, with the aim of creating an atmosphere in which the British and American opponents of British withdrawal from Egypt would be able to gain the upper hand and block the British withdrawal from Egypt.

According to historian Shabtai Teveth, who wrote one of the more detailed accounts, the assignment was "To undermine Western confidence in the existing [Egyptian] regime by generating public insecurity and actions to bring about arrests, demonstrations, and acts of revenge, while totally concealing the Israeli factor. The team was accordingly urged to avoid detection, so that suspicion would fall on the Muslim Brotherhood, the Communists, 'unspecified malcontents' or 'local nationalists'."

Imagine a guy with a neocon agenda dressing up as an Arab nationalist/muslim and engaging in terror/murder against civilians to manipulate a backlash and foreign military action against nationalists.

Now imagine a guy with a mass migration agenda dressing up as an ICE agent and engaging in terror/murder against civilians to manipulate a backlash and population transfers to suppress nationalists.

Back to this "journalist":

When Russia recently "expelled American diplomats" NYtimes acknowledged that they were actually spies pretending to be "diplomats" and other such workers:

In March, Russia retaliated for the US expulsion of Russian diplomats with the closure of a US consulate, and the expulsion of 60 American diplomats. US officials were quoted in the New York Times on Friday confirming that this included a number of US spies.

…This was apparently a substantial blow to the US spies operating inside Russia, and combined with increased counterintelligence efforts by Russia, they say the CIA and other US spy agencies are increasingly in the dark about Russia’s intentions.

Washingtonpost and NYtimes are the two most CIA associated papers I'm aware of. And so I can't trust or support any "journalists" associated with such groups when they seem overwhelmingly likely to be spies or other subversives.

China killed a ton of spies and subversives in the past few years:

WASHINGTON — The Chinese government systematically dismantled C.I.A. spying operations in the country starting in 2010, killing or imprisoning more than a dozen sources over two years and crippling intelligence gathering there for years afterward.

Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades. It set off a scramble in Washington’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies to contain the fallout, but investigators were bitterly divided over the cause. Some were convinced that a mole within the C.I.A. had betrayed the United States. Others believed that the Chinese had hacked the covert system the C.I.A. used to communicate with its foreign sources. Years later, that debate remains unresolved.

But there was no disagreement about the damage. From the final weeks of 2010 through the end of 2012, according to former American officials, the Chinese killed at least a dozen of the C.I.A.’s sources. According to three of the officials, one was shot in front of his colleagues in the courtyard of a government building — a message to others who might have been working for the C.I.A.

NYtimes was propably upset no one gives a shit about killed spies because spies are viewed likely to be part of the deep state that oppresses the West's own population. That's how Austria certainly see's it:

The extraordinary decision to target the agency responsible for defending the country from a multitude of threats, including right-wing extremism, had been made by the service’s new bosses: members of the far-right Freedom Party.

The reason? Defending the totalitarian North Korean regime from an Austrian espionage operation, among others cited in the search warrant. Critics saw absurd pretext for a politically motivated stab at an independent institution that could threaten the party’s agenda.

From my perspective there is absolutely no reason a state plagued with human rights abuse accusations like Saudi Arabia would escalate things a step further to kill a random "Washingtonpost freelance journalist" who "speaks out on human rights atrocities". The Washingtonpost does not care about human rights atrocities and would not risk diplomatic relations/funding to attack a potential Israel allied state (Saudi Arabia).

There is absolutely no reason to believe any "washingtonpost freelance journalist" would speak out against any corrupt state on its own merits, they are some of the most corrupt and bought off people in the world.

Prominent writer Anne Applebaum of Washingtonpost, of Jewish descent herself, literally stated comfort supporting self-proclaimed Nazis as long as they are attacking ethnic Russians:

But I must concede: There is no calculation, no balance sheet that can prove any of this. There is nothing that would appeal to a CEO or his shareholders. Whatever we have “invested” in Ukraine — loans, via the International Monetary Fund, or aid — will not show an immediate profit. To see the value of a secure, pro-Western Ukraine, you have to see the value of an alliance going back 70 years. And to preserve this alliance, you have to advocate it, work on it, invest time and maybe even money in it, too.

"Alliance going back 70 years" refers to the Nazi networks that German intelligence transferred over to the CIA during their surrender. These assets became neoliberal pawns in opposing the USSR and any other threats to neoliberal hegemony. Operation Paperclip is well known, Operation Gladio much less so. Operation Gladio was more recent NATO refreshing of these networks that utilized actual Nazi paramilitary groups, usually focused on Russian "subhumans" and leaving out the antisemitic parts, to incite idiot neonazi thugs to promote anti Russian propaganda to undermine any Soviet competition for international influence.

Basically, if you are dumb as shit and have weapons, you are "morally allowed" to racially attack non-Jewish ethnic groups as "subhumans" you are fine in Anne's view. The Ukrainian terrorists are supposedly creating a new ethnic history classification that tries to argue Ukrainians aren't actual Slavs and have no relation to ethnic Russians.

But I digress and come back to my main point, the only possible motivation that would drive a foreign state to risk severe diplomatic backlash to assasinate an unimportant Washingtonpost writer is if that person was a spy.

Political dissidents have a finite amount of attention and a finite amount of resources. It seems wasteful to expend such attention on sympathy for an establishment footsoldier.

Submitted October 12, 2018 at 05:36PM by MarquisDePaid
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